【新唐人2015年01月03日讯】在上海跨年夜活动上发生的踩踏事故,让36条无辜的生命定格在了2014年的最后一天。受伤的人数也在2号增加到49人。事故发生之后,除了质疑当局是否隐瞒死伤人数,管制新闻报导之外,各方面对上海政府问责的声音不断,甚至直接呼吁市委书记韩正下台。
上海外滩踩踏事故引发的震惊和悲伤延续到新的一年,人们带着鲜花来到陈毅广场,自发向罹难者表示哀悼。
在跨年夜发生事故,被很多中国人视为不好的预兆,不过上海市民表示,上海市府已经对媒体报导进行了管控,试图把坏事变成不让自己太难堪的“好事”。
上海市民郑建明:“上海电视台反而最低调,因为同样事情发生,我们也看了其它省市的电视台,报的比我们更详细。上海电视台就简单报一个像照片一样,它没有现场的视频。”
上海维权人士顾国平:“他就这么说,我们在抢救的过程中,产生了各种英雄事迹。什么工作人员尽职,救护人员献出了什么。好了,把一个事故,明明是个坏事,变成好事了。掩盖了这个事故的性质,掩盖了这个事故应当怎么避免。”
踩踏事故是怎么发生的,是否能够避免?上海警方目前仍然没有给出说法。一度传出是因为有人从高层建筑上抛洒类似美金的俱乐部代金券,引发哄抢造成的。但时隔一天,多家大陆媒体报导说,抛洒代金券的地点距离事故地点60米,而且时间也在踩踏事故之后。
好几位上海市民则认为,保安工作的疏忽,才是导致惨剧的主要原因。
上海市民唐先生:“还是那个安保问题,确实做的不到位。在上海这种大都市里看到这种踩踏事故,感到真的是很难过。”
顾国平:“我觉得这是管理上面有问题。他没有规范好,这个楼梯在人多的时候必须一个方向走路。又上又下两股势力混在一起,那肯定要发生踩踏。所以这是他们管理上出现的问题。我们现在还在议论,这件事情本应该不会发生。”
人们正在议论这起事故“本不应该发生”的原因,包括几个方面。
其中之一、是外滩当天并没有像前几年那样举行灯光秀。英国广播公司《BBC》中文网说,有消息指,许多民众并不知情。到达陈毅广场后,发现看不到灯光秀的人群试图离开,和仍然想进入观景平台的人群发生拥挤。
其二、是上海当局缺乏预防意识,低估人流,没有做出应对大人流量的特别预案。
其三、是警力不足,缺乏应变能力。黄浦公安分局指挥中心副指挥长蔡立新承认,事故当晚外滩的人流量已经超过“十一”,但布置的警力却比“十一”时少。在陈毅广场开始出现拥挤人群时,才先后调派500名警员到该区域。
因此,民间对上海市政府的问责声不断,有不少网民直接要求上海市长杨雄、市委书记韩正下台。
顾国平:“韩正应当考虑,不是人家要你下台,而是你应该主动的引咎辞职。因为发生这样的事故,对你是应当有责任的。”
甚至包括《新华网》在内的中共媒体,也连续发文,问责上海政府。《新华网》1号引用公安大学安全管理专家张弘的话说:根本原因是政府麻痹大意,其实,公开的多个资讯都已经透露出危险的信号,但是都被管理者忽视了。
台湾《联合新闻网》2号的文章认为,踩踏事故可能在上海官场引爆大地震。上海市政府相关单位没有管控好人潮,是造成意外的主要原因,上海市政府、市公安局领导负有直接责任。在中共总书记习近平主政下,估计会有多人因此下台。
采访/朱智善 编辑/尚燕
Shanghai Municipal Government Responsible for Stampede
A stampede in Shanghai during the New Year's Eve
celebration ended 36 lives on the the last day of 2014.
The count of the injured also increased to 49 on 2 Jan.
After the stampede, besides questioning whether the
authorities concealed the casualties and censored news,
all parties have kept questioning Shanghai government
accountability, and even directly called for Han Zheng,
the Party Secretary of Shanghai, to step down.
The stampede in Shanghai's Bund area brought shock and
grief to the new year, people spontaneously came to
Chen Yi Square with flowers, and expressed their
condolences to the victims.
As this accident happened during the New Year's Eve
celebration, many Chinese believe it's a bad omen.
However, Shanghai citizens claimed that the Shanghai
government has controlled and censored media reports,
trying to convert this bad thing into a not-too-embarrassing
"good thing".
Shanghai resident, Zheng Jianming: "Shanghai television
stations are the most low-key, while television stations
from other provinces have given more detailed reports about
the accident than us.
Shanghai TV reports are simple as a picture,
there is no video recording at the scene."
Shanghai human rights activist, Gu Guoping: "They just said
many heroic deeds occurred during the rescue process,
such as the staff are dedicated, rescue teams are dedicated."
"As such, a bad accident has converted into a good thing,
the nature of the accident has been concealed as well as
how the accident should have been avoided."
How did the stampede happen? Could it be avoided?
Shanghai police still do not give any statement.
People said that someone tossed club vouchers that look
like US dollar bills, which then triggered looting and
eventually the stampede.
However, the next day, mainland media reported
that the place where the vouchers were thrown is sixty meters
away from the stampede, and it happened after the
stampede occurred.
Several Shanghai residents believe that the lack of
security preparation is the main cause of the tragedy.
Shanghai resident, Mr. Tang: "The security work was indeed
negligent.
It is very sad to see a stampede occur in a
big city like Shanghai."
Gu Guoping: "I feel this is a management problem, there is
no proper specification, the stairs should only be walked in
one direction when it is very crowded.
A stampede will certainly happen when a crowd walks
in opposite directions."
"Therefore, it is a management problem, we are still
discussing this matter, it should not happen."
There are several reasons why this accident "should not have
happened."
One is that the Bund area did not hold the lightshow like it
did in previous years.
BBC's Chinese website stated that, it is reported that many
people did not know about this.
People entered the Chen Yi Square found that there was no
lightshow and wanted to leave, so there was congestion
with those who were still trying to enter the viewing platform.
The second reason is that the Shanghai authorities
underestimated the flow, and did not prepare for it.
The third reason is the lack of police and resilience.
Cai Lixin, the deputy of the Command Center at
Huangpu Public Security Bureau has admitted:
that night the flow of people at the Bund area exceeded
"National Day Golden Week", but police manpower was less.
Only when the crowd began to jam, were 500 officers
deployed to the area.
Hence, there are many voices questioning Shanghai
government's accountability, many netizens even ask
Yang Xiong, the Mayor of Shanghai, and Han Zheng,
to step down.
Gu Guoping: "Han Zheng should not worry about people
asking him to resign, he should take the initiative to resign,
because he is responsible for such accident."
Even CCP media like "Xinhuanet" published articles
continuously to question the government's accountability.
On Jan 1st, "Xinhuanet" quoted from Zhang Hong,
security management specialist at Public Security University,
stating that the fundamental reason is government
negligence.
In fact, public information had revealed danger signals,
but they were being ignored by the governor.
Taiwan "udn.com" published an article on 2 Jan, which
believes the stampede will cause a large upheaval in
Shanghai official circles.
Shanghai Municipal Government and its related units did not
have good crowd control, and they are the main cause of
this accident.
Shanghai Municipal Government and Municipal
Public Security Bureau leaders are directly responsible.
With Xi Jinping in power, many people are expected to step
down.
Interview/Zhu Zhishan Edit/ShangYan
上海外滩踩踏事故引发的震惊和悲伤延续到新的一年,人们带着鲜花来到陈毅广场,自发向罹难者表示哀悼。
在跨年夜发生事故,被很多中国人视为不好的预兆,不过上海市民表示,上海市府已经对媒体报导进行了管控,试图把坏事变成不让自己太难堪的“好事”。
上海市民郑建明:“上海电视台反而最低调,因为同样事情发生,我们也看了其它省市的电视台,报的比我们更详细。上海电视台就简单报一个像照片一样,它没有现场的视频。”
上海维权人士顾国平:“他就这么说,我们在抢救的过程中,产生了各种英雄事迹。什么工作人员尽职,救护人员献出了什么。好了,把一个事故,明明是个坏事,变成好事了。掩盖了这个事故的性质,掩盖了这个事故应当怎么避免。”
踩踏事故是怎么发生的,是否能够避免?上海警方目前仍然没有给出说法。一度传出是因为有人从高层建筑上抛洒类似美金的俱乐部代金券,引发哄抢造成的。但时隔一天,多家大陆媒体报导说,抛洒代金券的地点距离事故地点60米,而且时间也在踩踏事故之后。
好几位上海市民则认为,保安工作的疏忽,才是导致惨剧的主要原因。
上海市民唐先生:“还是那个安保问题,确实做的不到位。在上海这种大都市里看到这种踩踏事故,感到真的是很难过。”
顾国平:“我觉得这是管理上面有问题。他没有规范好,这个楼梯在人多的时候必须一个方向走路。又上又下两股势力混在一起,那肯定要发生踩踏。所以这是他们管理上出现的问题。我们现在还在议论,这件事情本应该不会发生。”
人们正在议论这起事故“本不应该发生”的原因,包括几个方面。
其中之一、是外滩当天并没有像前几年那样举行灯光秀。英国广播公司《BBC》中文网说,有消息指,许多民众并不知情。到达陈毅广场后,发现看不到灯光秀的人群试图离开,和仍然想进入观景平台的人群发生拥挤。
其二、是上海当局缺乏预防意识,低估人流,没有做出应对大人流量的特别预案。
其三、是警力不足,缺乏应变能力。黄浦公安分局指挥中心副指挥长蔡立新承认,事故当晚外滩的人流量已经超过“十一”,但布置的警力却比“十一”时少。在陈毅广场开始出现拥挤人群时,才先后调派500名警员到该区域。
因此,民间对上海市政府的问责声不断,有不少网民直接要求上海市长杨雄、市委书记韩正下台。
顾国平:“韩正应当考虑,不是人家要你下台,而是你应该主动的引咎辞职。因为发生这样的事故,对你是应当有责任的。”
甚至包括《新华网》在内的中共媒体,也连续发文,问责上海政府。《新华网》1号引用公安大学安全管理专家张弘的话说:根本原因是政府麻痹大意,其实,公开的多个资讯都已经透露出危险的信号,但是都被管理者忽视了。
台湾《联合新闻网》2号的文章认为,踩踏事故可能在上海官场引爆大地震。上海市政府相关单位没有管控好人潮,是造成意外的主要原因,上海市政府、市公安局领导负有直接责任。在中共总书记习近平主政下,估计会有多人因此下台。
采访/朱智善 编辑/尚燕
Shanghai Municipal Government Responsible for Stampede
A stampede in Shanghai during the New Year's Eve
celebration ended 36 lives on the the last day of 2014.
The count of the injured also increased to 49 on 2 Jan.
After the stampede, besides questioning whether the
authorities concealed the casualties and censored news,
all parties have kept questioning Shanghai government
accountability, and even directly called for Han Zheng,
the Party Secretary of Shanghai, to step down.
The stampede in Shanghai's Bund area brought shock and
grief to the new year, people spontaneously came to
Chen Yi Square with flowers, and expressed their
condolences to the victims.
As this accident happened during the New Year's Eve
celebration, many Chinese believe it's a bad omen.
However, Shanghai citizens claimed that the Shanghai
government has controlled and censored media reports,
trying to convert this bad thing into a not-too-embarrassing
"good thing".
Shanghai resident, Zheng Jianming: "Shanghai television
stations are the most low-key, while television stations
from other provinces have given more detailed reports about
the accident than us.
Shanghai TV reports are simple as a picture,
there is no video recording at the scene."
Shanghai human rights activist, Gu Guoping: "They just said
many heroic deeds occurred during the rescue process,
such as the staff are dedicated, rescue teams are dedicated."
"As such, a bad accident has converted into a good thing,
the nature of the accident has been concealed as well as
how the accident should have been avoided."
How did the stampede happen? Could it be avoided?
Shanghai police still do not give any statement.
People said that someone tossed club vouchers that look
like US dollar bills, which then triggered looting and
eventually the stampede.
However, the next day, mainland media reported
that the place where the vouchers were thrown is sixty meters
away from the stampede, and it happened after the
stampede occurred.
Several Shanghai residents believe that the lack of
security preparation is the main cause of the tragedy.
Shanghai resident, Mr. Tang: "The security work was indeed
negligent.
It is very sad to see a stampede occur in a
big city like Shanghai."
Gu Guoping: "I feel this is a management problem, there is
no proper specification, the stairs should only be walked in
one direction when it is very crowded.
A stampede will certainly happen when a crowd walks
in opposite directions."
"Therefore, it is a management problem, we are still
discussing this matter, it should not happen."
There are several reasons why this accident "should not have
happened."
One is that the Bund area did not hold the lightshow like it
did in previous years.
BBC's Chinese website stated that, it is reported that many
people did not know about this.
People entered the Chen Yi Square found that there was no
lightshow and wanted to leave, so there was congestion
with those who were still trying to enter the viewing platform.
The second reason is that the Shanghai authorities
underestimated the flow, and did not prepare for it.
The third reason is the lack of police and resilience.
Cai Lixin, the deputy of the Command Center at
Huangpu Public Security Bureau has admitted:
that night the flow of people at the Bund area exceeded
"National Day Golden Week", but police manpower was less.
Only when the crowd began to jam, were 500 officers
deployed to the area.
Hence, there are many voices questioning Shanghai
government's accountability, many netizens even ask
Yang Xiong, the Mayor of Shanghai, and Han Zheng,
to step down.
Gu Guoping: "Han Zheng should not worry about people
asking him to resign, he should take the initiative to resign,
because he is responsible for such accident."
Even CCP media like "Xinhuanet" published articles
continuously to question the government's accountability.
On Jan 1st, "Xinhuanet" quoted from Zhang Hong,
security management specialist at Public Security University,
stating that the fundamental reason is government
negligence.
In fact, public information had revealed danger signals,
but they were being ignored by the governor.
Taiwan "udn.com" published an article on 2 Jan, which
believes the stampede will cause a large upheaval in
Shanghai official circles.
Shanghai Municipal Government and its related units did not
have good crowd control, and they are the main cause of
this accident.
Shanghai Municipal Government and Municipal
Public Security Bureau leaders are directly responsible.
With Xi Jinping in power, many people are expected to step
down.
Interview/Zhu Zhishan Edit/ShangYan